Podcast E20: Male Sexuality
In Magdalene Effekten's podcast episode E20, "Male Sexuality - A Woman's Perspective", Mette Miriam Sloth explores male sexuality based on her observations and insights. She debunks the myth that male sexuality is simple and instead focuses on its complexity and the challenges that arise in the encounter with female sexuality.
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Important Points from E20:
Male Sexuality - More Complex Than It Seems: Mette argues that men's sexuality, like women's, is complex and often misunderstood. It cannot be reduced to stereotypical notions that men are only driven by desire and ejaculation.
Misunderstood Simplification of Sexuality: Both men's and women's sexuality has been packaged into simplistic categories, which leads to misunderstandings and dissatisfaction in relationships. By exercising curiosity and openness, couples can uncover the many nuances that exist in the sexuality of both sexes.
Differences in Sexual Interest: Mette observes that the man's interest in the woman often drops drastically after he has achieved orgasm. She explains that this may be due to a rapid drop in the man's oxytocin level, while the woman's oxytocin level rises, which makes her want more intimacy and closeness.
Evolutionary Influence: Mette acknowledges that evolution has influenced men's sexuality, which can explain their desire for variety and rapid rebuilding of sexual desire. This biological impulse can create friction in the relationship, as women's sexual needs often do not follow the same rhythm.
Visual and Verbal Dominance: Mette points out that men are often more visual and verbal in their approach to sexuality, which can be a challenge for women who do not respond in the same way. Men's tendency to verbalize fantasies can take the focus away from the woman and her needs.
Projection of Sexual Expectations: Mette believes that men can project their own understanding of sexuality onto women and expect them to react in the same way that they do. This can lead to disappointment and misunderstandings, as women's sexuality is often more complex and connected to emotions.
Curiosity and Genuine Interest: Mette emphasizes the importance of the man being curious and showing genuine interest in the woman's sexual experience. He must be willing to listen and understand her needs without projecting his own expectations onto her.
Sexuality's Transformative Potential: Mette sees sexuality as a powerful opportunity for transformation and healing for both the man and the woman. She believes that the man's "little death" after ejaculation can be an opening to process unconscious themes and traumas.
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Welcome to the deep dive. We're your AI hosts and well today we're diving into something a little different.
Oh yeah, this should be interesting.
Yeah. We've been asked by Mette Miriam Sloth and Sune Sloth, they're the hosts of the Danish podcast the Magdalene Effect to kind of help share their insights with a wider audience, an English-speaking audience of course.
So we're bridging languages and cultures today for this deep dive which is pretty exciting. We're going to be exploring a topic that's often misunderstood. male sexuality.
Yeah, definitely. And we're gonna be focusing on episode 20 of the Magdalene Effect. And in that episode, Medy Miriam Sloth offers a woman's perspective.
A woman's perspective on this complex and often sensitive subject.
Exactly. You know, it's interesting because we often hear about sexuality from a man's perspective, right?
But rarely do we get this kind of deep dive from a woman's point of view.
I know. It's like opening a new window into a familiar room. Exactly. You know,
so met Miriam Sloth. She starts by challenging the common stereotype that male sexuality is all about desire and ejaculation.
Okay.
Which is a very simplistic view, wouldn't you say?
Absolutely. I mean, come on. Reducing any gender sexuality to just those two things. It's it's like saying a gourmet meal is just about chewing and swallowing.
Exactly. There's so much more to savor.
Exactly.
I met Miriam Sloth argues that just like female sexuality, male sexuality is a multi-layered experience.
You know, it's shaped by biology. psychology and societal influences.
Yeah, for sure.
She's inviting us to look beyond the surface and explore the nuances of how men experience desire, pleasure, and intimacy.
Okay, so let's dig into some specifics then.
Yeah.
One of the things that Met Miam Sloth highlights is this fascinating difference in how men and women often experience desire after an orgasm.
After an orgasm.
Yeah.
Okay.
She observes that men's interest can sometimes take a nose dive postclimax.
Yeah.
Whereas women often experience a surge in desire for intimate see in connection.
That's so interesting. I can see how this could lead to some serious mixed signals in the bedroom.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely. So, this ties into the role of hormones like oxytocin,
often dubbed the cuddle hormone, right?
Men experience a rapid drop in oxytocin after orgasm. Oh.
While women see an increase.
Oh, wow.
This might explain why men sometimes feel like retreating into their man cave postcoidis.
Yeah.
While women are craving more closeness.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So, Not necessarily that men don't want to cuddle,
right?
It's just that their biology might be working against them in those moments.
Exactly.
I guess timing really is everything.
It is. It is.
But how does Met Miriam Sloth suggest couples navigate this post orgasm disconnect?
Well, she emphasizes the importance of communication and compromise.
Okay.
It's about acknowledging that those post-orggasm needs might be different and finding ways to bridge that gap.
Okay.
For example, simple gestures of affection like holding hands or a gentle touch. Yeah,
can go a long way in maintaining a sense of connection
even if a full-blown cuddle session isn't on the agenda.
That makes a lot of sense.
It's about recognizing that intimacy can be expressed in many ways, not just through sexual activity.
Exactly.
But speaking of sexual activity,
met Miam Sloth also delves into how evolutionary pressures might be contributing to some of these differences in male and female sexuality.
Right. She points out that men's biological drive to spread their genene means,
okay,
might explain why they tend to experience a faster return of sexual desire,
okay,
and sometimes have a desire for variety.
Ah,
it's fascinating to consider how these ancient impulses rooted in survival might still be influencing our modern relationships.
It's almost like a tugof-war between our primal instincts and our desire for monogous relationships.
It's no wonder things can get complicated.
It is complicated.
But before we get too deep into evolutionary psychology,
okay,
let's go back to Met Amiriam. Sloth's observation about men often approaching sexuality in a more visual and verbal way.
Okay.
I'm curious, what are the potential pitfalls of this tendency?
Well, one potential challenge is that it can create a disconnect
with women who might experience sexuality in a more nuanced way.
Okay.
Where emotions and sensations play a more prominent role,
right?
Met Miam Sloth specifically mentions that men sometimes verbalize their fantasies during intimacy.
Okay.
Which can unintentionally shift the focus away from the woman's experience and her own desires.
It's almost like he's accidentally hijacking the moment with his own internal movie. Yes.
Rather than tuning into what his partner is feeling.
Exactly.
I can see how that could be frustrating for the woman.
Precisely. And this brings us to another crucial point.
Okay.
Met Miriam Sloth argues that men sometimes project their own understanding of sexuality onto women, expecting similar reactions and desires.
It's almost like assuming that what gets them going will automatically have the same effect on their partner.
Right?
Forgetting that women's sexuality is often more complex and interwoven with emotional connection.
You hit the nail on the head and when these expectations aren't met, it can lead to disappointment and a sense of disconnect in the relationship.
Okay. So, communication is key, right?
Absolutely.
But what does that communication look like in practice?
Right.
What kind of guidance does Miriam Sloth offer?
Well, she emphasizes the importance of men cultivating genuine curiosity. about their partner's sexual experience. It's about moving beyond assumptions
and being willing to listen without judgment.
Allowing space for open communication and a deeper understanding of each other's needs and desires.
It's not about becoming a mind readader, but rather embracing the journey of discovering what turns your partner on, what makes her feel safe and loved, and what brings her the most pleasure. Sounds like a pretty exciting adventure if you ask me.
Indeed. And this exploration can be incredibly trans formative for both partners. Met Miriam Sloth even suggests that the little death men experience after ejaculation can be an opportunity for processing unconscious themes and traumas.
Hey, what the little death? That sounds kind of intense.
It might sound dramatic, but think about it. In that moment of vulnerability after the peak of sexual intensity has passed,
yeah,
there's a potential for deeper emotions to surface. It's like a doorway into the subconscious mind.
So, she's suggesting that instead of just rolling over and going to sleep.
Men might benefit from staying present with those feelings even if they're uncomfortable.
Exactly. And this is where the feminine energy comes into play.
Okay.
Med Miriam Sloth believes that women have a natural capacity to hold space for men's emotional vulnerability. Wow.
Creating a safe container for them to explore those deeper parts of themselves without fear of judgment.
Okay, so hold on. Let me get this straight. She's suggesting that the woman's presence can actually help the man process and heal old wounds.
That's right. It's not about the woman fixing him or offering solutions, but simply being a compassionate and supportive presence.
Wow. That's pretty powerful stuff. It makes you realize that intimacy is about so much more than just physical pleasure.
Exactly.
There's a whole emotional and spiritual dimension to it.
Right. Precisely. And that brings us to another fascinating concept that Met Miriam Sloth introduces. The idea of the feminine invitation.
The feminine invitation.
What does that mean exactly? Is this like some secret code we guys need to crack?
Think of it as a woman actively engaging her power.
Okay.
To draw a man into a deeper experience of intimacy.
Uhhuh.
She's not passively waiting to be pursued, right?
She's creating the spark, setting the stage for a more fulfilling encounter.
So, it's about women taking charge of their own sexuality and expressing their desires in a way that feels authentic and empowering.
Exactly. It's about shifting the dynamic from a conquest to a collaboration, a dance between masculine and feminine energies where both partners are actively engaged.
Okay?
And this invitation can take many forms
from a suggestive glance to a gentle touch,
a whispered fantasy, or even a bold declaration of what she wants.
It sounds like it's all about tapping into that intuitive, creative, and expressive energy that we often associate with the feminine. But hold on, what about men who are more visually oriented, right?
How do they fit into this equation?
That's a great question.
Yeah.
And brings us to a crucial point about the spectrum of male sexuality.
Okay, I'm all ears. Let's dive into that in part two.
It's interesting how we tend to categorize people into these neat little boxes, but when it comes to sexuality, especially male sexuality,
those boxes just don't seem to fit,
right?
Med Miriam Sloth points out the spectrum of male sexuality.
Okay.
Highlighting two contrasting types.
Okay.
Have you ever heard of the hyundp?
A hyundelp? Isn't that a puppy?
It is. What does a puppy have to do with male sexuality?
Well, it's a Danish term Met Miriam Sloth uses to describe a man who is overly cautious and hesitant in the bedroom.
Okay.
Almost too gentle and afraid to take the lead.
Okay.
Like a puppy, he's eager to please, but lacks the confidence and assertiveness that some women find attractive.
Okay. I can see how that might not be the most exciting dynamic, right? I mean, a little bit of confidence can be pretty sexy, but isn't gentleness a good quality?
It absolutely can be. Yeah.
But in this context, met Miriam Sloth is suggesting that too much hesitation can dampen the passion and excitement.
Okay.
It's like he's tiptoeing around the woman's desires instead of confidently expressing his own.
So, it's not about being rough or forceful.
Mhm.
But rather about finding that sweet spot between tenderness and assertiveness.
Yes.
Like a dance where both partners are leading and following at the same time.
That's a beautiful way to put it. And this brings us to the other end of the spectrum.
Okay.
The bad boy archetype.
A the bad boy.
You know, the conf rebellious type who oozes charisma and isn't afraid to push boundaries.
Always a classic.
But I can already see the potential pitfalls here. All that excitement might come with a hefty dose of emotional unavailability.
Exactly. While the bad boy might be skilled at triggering a woman's desire, he might also be unwilling to commit or invest in a deeper emotional connection.
Right.
He might leave a trail of broken hearts in his wake,
leaving the woman feeling used and unfulfilled.
So, we have these two extremes. The overly cautious hundvel and the exciting but emotionally unavailable bad boy. What's the solution? Is there some magical middle ground where men can embrace both their tenderness and their wild side?
Met Miriam Sloth believes there is. She emphasizes the importance of cultivating a healthy masculinity that integrates both the hundvelop and the bad boy qualities.
Okay.
It's about finding that sweet spot where a man can be both a passionate lover and a supportive partner. capable of expressing both his strength and his sensitivity.
So, it's not about choosing one or the other.
It's about integrating those different aspects of oneself into a whole authentic expression of masculinity.
Precisely. It's about recognizing that healthy masculinity isn't defined by stereotypes, but rather by a willingness to embrace the full spectrum of one's emotional and sexual potential.
Okay, that makes sense. But let's be honest, this idea of healthy masculinity can sometimes feel pretty abstract.
How can men actually put this into practice?
Well, metiam Loth emphasizes the importance of self-awareness. It's about taking the time to understand one's own needs, desires, and patterns.
Yeah.
Why do you think a man might gravitate towards one end of the spectrum or the other?
Have you ever found yourself drawn to either extreme?
You know, thinking back on my own dating experiences, I can definitely see how I've sometimes been attracted to the bad boy energy.
Yeah,
there's something alluring about that confidence and unpredictability,
right?
But I've also learned that those relation ships can be pretty volatile and then ultimately unsatisfying.
That's a very honest reflection. Yeah.
And it speaks to the importance of recognizing that those initial sparks of attraction don't always translate into a lasting fulfilling connection.
So self-awareness is key.
But what else can men do to cultivate a more balanced expression of their sexuality?
Miam Sloth suggests that emotional maturity is also crucial. Okay.
It's about being able to communicate openly and honestly with one's partner to be vulnerable and to express one's needs and desires without fear of judgment.
It's about moving beyond the fear of being perceived as weak or needy and recognizing that true strength lies in the ability to connect with another human being on a deeper level.
Exactly. And she also emphasizes the importance of doing the inner work to heal past wounds and to develop a healthy relationship with one's own sexuality. This might involve therapy, journaling, meditation, or any other practice that helps a man connect with his emotions and explore his inner world. It sounds like it's all about becoming more conscious of the forces that are shaping one's behavior and making choices that are aligned with one's values and deepest desires.
You're absolutely right. And this journey of self-discovery and integration can lead to a more profound and fulfilling experience of intimacy both for the man himself and for the women he chooses to share his life with.
Now, Medi Miriam Sloth also talks about the importance of women reclaiming their own wisdom and power within their sexuality.
Yes.
What does she mean by that? Isn't female sexuality already celebrated and embraced in our culture?
Well, while there has been progress in recent years, MetaMiriam sloth argues that many women still struggle to fully embrace their sexuality due to societal conditioning and limiting beliefs.
I see. So, it's not just about men evolving,
right?
It's about women breaking free from those old scripts and embracing their full potential as sexual beings.
Exactly. She encourages women to move beyond shame and guilt and to reconnect with the pleasure and power that reside within their bodies.
This sounds like a call to action for women to step into their full radiance and to claim their rightful place as equals in the realm of sexuality.
Yes,
it's about recognizing that feminine power isn't about dominating or controlling.
Right.
It's about embracing one's sensuality, intuition, and creativity.
You've beautifully captured the essence of what Met Miam Sloth is conveying.
Thank you.
She's encouraging women to explore their bodies, to discover what truly brings them pleasure, and to express their desires with confidence and authenticity.
It's about Recognizing that a woman's sexuality is a gift, a source of strength, and a pathway to deeper self-nowledge and connection. And this reclamation of feminine power can have a profound impact on the relationship as a whole.
It allows for a more balanced and dynamic interaction between the masculine and feminine energies, creating a space where both partners feel seen, heard, and honored in their desires.
Speaking of honoring desires, Miriam Sloth also talks about this fascinating concept of the feminine invitation.
Yes.
It's like she's suggesting that women have this secret power to draw men into a deeper level of intimacy.
It's not so much about a secret power, but rather about recognizing the subtle, intuitive way that feminine energy often operates. Okay?
It's about trusting one's instincts and expressing desires in a way that feels authentic and empowering.
So, instead of waiting for the man to make the first move, she's encouraging women to take the lead, to create the spark, to set the stage for a more fulfilling encounter.
Exactly. It's about shifting the dynamic from a conquest to a collaboration. a dance between masculine and feminine energies where both partners are actively engaged. And this invitation can take many forms from a suggestive glance to a gentle touch, a whispered fantasy, or even a bold declaration of what she wants.
It sounds incredibly empowering for women to embrace this role.
But I'm also wondering about the men. How do they respond to this shift in dynamic?
Mint. Miam sloth suggests that many men actually welcome this invitation.
Where will he?
It can be belief to be freed from the pressure of always having to initiate and to instead be invited into a space where they can surrender to the flow of pleasure.
So, it's not about men losing their power, right?
It's about both partners sharing the power and creating a more balanced and fulfilling experience.
Precisely. It's about recognizing that the dance of intimacy is most beautiful when both partners are leading and following, expressing their desires, and responding to each other with sensitivity and respect.
Okay, that makes sense. But let's get real for a moment. We've been talking about these ideals of balanced masculinity, empowered femininity, and this beautiful dance of intimacy. Yes.
But what about the challenges that real couples face in their day-to-day lives,
right?
You know, the stress, the busy schedules, the inevitable conflicts that arise.
How do we keep the spark alive amidst all of that?
That's an excellent question. And Medi Miriam Sloth addresses this directly.
Okay.
She acknowledges that maintaining intimacy and passion in long-term relationships takes effort and intentionality.
Okay. It's like tending a garden. You can't just plant the seeds and expect them to flourish on their own. You have to water them and weed them and give them the right conditions to thrive.
So, it's about recognizing that relationships require ongoing nurturing and attention.
We can't just coast on that initial spark of attraction.
Exactly. It's about making time for each other even amidst busy schedules. Right.
It's about prioritizing date nights, expressing appreciation, and finding ways to connect on a deeper level both emotionally and physically.
I can see how that can be challenging especially when you're juggling work, family, and all the other demands of modern life. But I guess it's about recognizing that the relationship is the foundation for all of that.
Yes.
If the foundation is crumbling, everything else is going to suffer.
That's a powerful way to put it. And Matty Miriam Sloth also makes a really crucial point.
Okay.
A decline in sexual intimacy within a relationship is often a symptom of a deeper disconnect.
It's like the lack of passion in the bedroom is a red flag signaling that something else is off in the relationship.
Exactly. So instead of just trying to reignite the physical spark, she encourages couples to address the underlying issues such as communication breakdowns, unresolved conflicts, or unmet needs.
It's about understanding that true intimacy is built on a foundation of trust, respect, and emotional connection.
And when those elements are present, the sexual spark is much more likely to flourish.
Okay? So communication is key. But sometimes even when couples are communicating, they hit a wall,
right?
What happens when those needs and desires just don't align.
That's where the concept of choice comes into play.
Okay.
Met Miriam Sloth emphasizes the importance of both men and women being honest with themselves and their partners about their needs and desires.
Yeah.
She acknowledges that sometimes despite love and good intentions, paths might diverge.
It's a powerful reminder that we each have the right to make choices that feel aligned with our deepest truth, even if those choices lead to difficult or painful outcomes.
Exactly. She encourages individuals to prioritize their own well-being and to be willing to walk away from situations that no longer serve their highest good, even if it means ending a relationship.
It's a message of empowerment, reminding us that we have the right to define our own boundaries and to choose partners who honor our values and needs. And this choice requires courage, self-awareness, and a deep commitment to living authentically.
It's about recognizing that sometimes letting go is the most loving act both for ourselves and for the other person.
Wow. That's a lot to unpack. I think we need to take a break and let all that sink in. Let's pick this up again in part three. Okay, I think we're ready to jump back in. Letting go isn't always easy.
It isn't. It takes courage to face those difficult decisions, but you know, sometimes it's necessary for both people to grow.
Absolutely. Now, Matty Miriam Sloth also dives into a topic that can be a little bit controversial.
Oh.
The role of aggression in male sexual ality.
Okay.
She acknowledges that aggression is often seen as a negative trait, especially in the context of intimate relationships,
right?
But she challenges us to kind of look a little deeper.
Look deeper.
She's not condoning violence or abuse, of course. Of course not.
But she suggests that there's a healthy form of aggression that can actually enhance intimacy.
Okay.
How does she distinguish between those two?
Well, she emphasizes that healthy aggression is always grounded in respect and consent.
Okay.
It's about being assertive and passionate.
Okay.
But never forc ful or coercive.
So, it's about finding that balance between intensity and tenderness,
like a dance where both partners are fully present and attuned to each other's boundaries.
Exactly. And she points out that many women actually crave a certain level of aggression in their sexual encounters.
Really,
it can create a sense of excitement, surrender, and a feeling of being swept away.
But I imagine this requires a lot of trust and communication.
Absolutely.
The man needs to be able to read his partner's cues and respond. accordingly.
Yes, it's not about imposing one's will on the other person, right?
It's about creating a shared experience of pleasure where both partners feel safe and empowered.
Now, Matty Miriam Sleuth also talks about the post orgasm disconnect that many couples experience. Yes,
we touched on this earlier, but can you elaborate on her insights a bit more?
Sure. She observes that men often experience a sense of completion after ejaculation.
Their desire plummets,
okay,
and they kind of feel like retreating. Meanwhile, women might be experiencing a surge in desire for connection and intimacy.
So, it's like they're on completely different wavelengths.
Yes.
Which can lead to frustration and a sense of being out of sync.
Exactly. And she attributes this partly to hormonal shifts.
Right.
Men experience a rapid drop in oxytocin, a cuddle hormone after orgasm,
while women see a rise.
Okay, that makes sense from a biological perspective, right?
But, you know, knowing that doesn't necessarily solve the problem. Right.
How does she suggest couples navigate this difference?
Well, she emphasizes the importance of communication and finding a compromise.
It's about recognizing that those post orgasm needs might be different
and finding ways to bridge that gap.
So maybe instead of immediately rolling over and going to sleep,
the man could make an effort to stay present with his partner
even if he's not feeling particularly amorous.
Yes, simple gestures of affection like holding hands or cuddling can go a long way in maintaining maintaining a sense of connection, right?
Even if a full-blown cuddle session isn't on the agenda,
it's about recognizing that intimacy can be expressed in many ways, not just through sexual activity.
That's an important point and it brings us to another key insight from Medi Miriam Sloth.
Okay.
She believes that men often have a very goaloriented approach to sex.
Okay.
Like they're focused on reaching a destination.
I think a lot of men would relate to that. Yeah.
But what's the downside of this approach?
Well, the problem is that it can lead to a disconnect from the woman's experience. Okay?
Which might be more about savoring the journey. Okay.
The eb and flow of sensations.
So the man might be rushing towards a finish line
while the woman is still enjoying the scenery along the way.
Exactly. And this can leave her feeling frustrated and unfulfilled like her needs aren't being fully considered.
So it's about men slowing down, tuning into their partner's cues,
and appreciating the subtle nuances of the experience.
Yes. It's about being with the journey. Yeah.
Rather than just focused on the destination.
Now, Medi Mariam Sloth also talks about the potential danger of men projecting their fantasies onto their partners, especially when those fantasies involve elements that the woman might not be comfortable with.
Right? She cautions women against feeling pressured to conform to their partner's desires, especially if those desires feel out of alignment with their own values or comfort levels.
It's about recognizing that true intimacy requires mutual consent and a deep respect for each other's boundaries.
Absolutely. And it's about being willing to communicate honestly and openly about what feels good and what doesn't.
She encourages women to trust their intuition and to speak up if something feels off.
Yeah.
Even if it means disrupting the flow of the moment.
It's about remembering that both partners have the right to feel safe and respected and that open communication is essential for creating a truly fulfilling sexual experience.
Okay, so we've covered a lot of ground today, right?
From the biological difference between men and women to the importance of communication and the power of the feminine invitation. We've explored the challenges of maintaining intimacy in long-term relationships and the importance of honoring both partners' needs and desires.
It's been quite a journey.
It has. I think one of the biggest takeaways for me is that sexuality is a journey, not a destination.
It's about continuous exploration, growth, and a willingness to learn and evolve both individually and together.
And it's about recognizing that there's no one-izefits-all approach. What works for one couple might not work for another.
Exactly.
And that's okay.
The key is to find what feels authentic and fulfilling for both partners
and to approach the whole experience with curiosity, compassion, and a sense of adventure.
We've only just begun to scratch the surface of understanding this complex and fascinating aspect of human experience.
So, as many Miriam Sloth reminds us, let's keep exploring, keep connecting, and keep diving deep.
Beautiful. And that wraps up our deep dive into male sexuality through a woman's eyes. We hope this ation has sparked some new insights and maybe even inspired you to explore your own relationships with more curiosity and openness.
Until next time, stay curious and keep the conversation going.
