Podcast E11: Polarity: The Feminine Journey
Podcast E11, "Polarity and the Feminine Journey," is a conversation between Mette Miriam Sloth and Sune Sloth that explores the feminine experience of polarity in relationships. The conversation centers around how women can navigate the dance of polarity and find a balance between surrendering to masculine energy while maintaining their own power and integrity.
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Polarity as Friction and Energy
Mette Miriam Sloth introduces the concept of polarity as "friction" between a plus and a minus, which creates energy. This friction between the masculine and feminine creates a dynamic energy that can lead to a deeper and more fulfilling experience in the relationship.
The podcast emphasizes that polarity is not tied to gender, but is about energies and states that are found in all people. Women will typically identify with the feminine pole, which is associated with being receptive, open, and surrendering, while men often identify with the masculine pole, which is associated with being active, acting, and directing.
Playing with the Poles and Finding Your Primary Pole
Although most people have a primary pole where they feel most at home, it is possible to play with the poles and switch between them. The podcast encourages experimenting and exploring both poles to find out where you feel most satisfied.
Mette Miriam Sloth emphasizes, however, that it can be difficult to be sexually satisfied if you are not fulfilled in your primary pole. For women who identify with the feminine pole, this may mean that they long to be taken and penetrated by the masculine energy.
Being vs. Doing: The Feminine State
Sune Sloth brings up an important aspect of polarity, namely the difference between being and doing. He asks Mette Miriam Sloth how it feels as a woman to be in the different states.
Mette Miriam Sloth describes the feminine state as being connected with sensory stimuli, fluidity, and spontaneity. She uses the example of an accounting firm that is characterized by structure and agendas (masculine energy) but lacks colors, sensory stimuli, and liveliness (feminine energy).
Awareness of Polarity for a Delicious Dance
The podcast emphasizes that awareness of polarity is essential to create a delicious dance between the masculine and feminine. When the friction between the poles is conscious and enjoyable, it can lead to a more ecstatic experience than if it is unconscious and characterized by struggle and control.
Stereotypes and the Battle Between the Poles
Mette Miriam Sloth warns against falling into stereotypical roles that can limit the natural dance between the poles. When you are tied to stereotypical ideas about the masculine and feminine, it can lead to a battle between the poles instead of a harmonious dance.
Finding the Bad Boy and Getting Burned
The podcast touches on the phenomenon of women seeking bad boys when they feel dissatisfied in their relationships. Mette Miriam Sloth explains that this often happens when the woman has taken on too many masculine values and closes off her feminine pole.
Invitation and Surrender
To create a healthy polarity in the relationship, the woman must step into her feminine pole and be inviting and inspiring. She must let go of control and allow the masculine energy to lead and protect her.
Responsibility and the Project Manager Role
Mette Miriam Sloth warns against women taking on too much responsibility in the relationship. When the woman becomes the project manager at home, it can lead to the man being pushed into the feminine pole and losing his natural drive.
Trust and Giving Up Responsibility
For the masculine energy to flourish, the woman must give up responsibility and have confidence in the man's ability to lead. If the woman does not trust the man and holds on to control, her body will close off to the sexual power.
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Hey everybody and welcome to the deep dive. We are your AI hosts for this deep dive and um we're going to be looking at something pretty interesting today. We'll be exploring this concept of polarity in relationships. Now when we say polarity, we're not talking about, you know, magnets or anything like that. Well, maybe a little bit. We're actually going to be taking a look at a Danish podcast called the Magdalene Effect
created by Mette Miriam Sloth and Sune Sloth.
Yes.
And they've asked us to kind of share this with a wider English speaking audience.
That's right.
We think this is going to be incredibly thoughtprovoking for you guys. So,
yes,
just so you know, you can find English transcripts of their original podcast at magdaleneffect.org.
Uh, yes, you can. And it's a really insightful podcast that delves into this interplay between masculine and feminine energies. They call it polarity. And they talk about how understanding these energies, how they interact, can actually lead to more fulfilling relationships, more passionate relationships.
Okay, so I think that's a good place to start. Let's just jump right in. What What is this concept of polarity? It sounds a little I don't know mystical maybe. What exactly are we talking about here?
Yeah. I mean, think of it this way. You know how a battery needs a positive and a negative charge to create that spark of energy, right?
It's kind of like that in relationships, too. There's this natural kind of friction that happens between masculine and feminine energies, and that's what generates excitement, connection, even that, you know, deep heart pounding attraction that we feel.
Okay, I'm starting to see the analogy here, but I got to ask,
does this mean we're just talking about those old school gender roles like men are masculine, women are feminine, that's it? End of story.
Not really. While those traditional, you know, associations are often true, it's a little more nuanced than that.
The Magdalene effect actually points out that every single person has what they call a primary polarity. So, this is a leaning towards either masculine or feminine energy in their sexuality, and that's regardless of gender.
Interesting. So, how do you figure out your primary polarity? Do you like take a quiz online?
Well, they actually draw on the work of David Dada.
Okay.
He suggests that you look at things like your sexual fantasies or what you're drawn to in movies, even just how you move your body.
Oh, wow.
It's really about tuning into those natural inclinations, those things you're naturally drawn to. And he kind of boils it down to this. In a sexual context, are you usually the one who takes or are you the one who kind of surrenders?
Wow. I never thought about it that way before. Okay, so let's say you figure out what your own polarity is. What does that actually do for you in a relationship?
Well, it's kind of a game changer really. First of all, it just helps you understand yourself better, which is always a good thing, right?
But even more than that, it becomes a gift to your partner because you're bringing this self-awareness into the dynamic.
Okay?
It can also explain why some relationships just kind of, you know, fizzle out. Maybe there's not enough polarity there. Like imagine trying to start a fire with two positive ends of a battery,
right?
It also helps couples move past the blame game. You know, if things aren't working, it might not be anybody's fault. It might just be a mismatch in polarity.
Okay, I'm starting to see how this could be really helpful, not just for understanding attraction, but for, you know, actually building stronger relationships. But how does this all play out dayto-day?
Well, the Magdalene effect outlines these three stages of relational development, and they're very insightful. What's interesting is these stages, they actually mirror our own individual journeys, our growth, and our maturity as people.
Okay, now I'm intrigued. Tell me more about these stages.
Okay, so stage one, they call it the bimbo macho dynamic.
Okay,
it's all about that surface level attraction. You know, that external validation, that initial spark. Think, you know, the classic men fixated on a woman's appearance, women drawn to a man's status, his success, you know, all very externally driven.
Okay, so basically all fireworks, no substance.
Yeah, pretty much. And the thing is, while it can be exciting in the beginning, it's not sustainable. Both part partners are operating from this place of, you know, insecurity and neediness. There's a lot of drama, jealousy, conflict because neither partner truly sees or values the other's energy.
So, what happens next? Do people just stay stuck in this superficial stage forever?
Thankfully, no. Most people move on to stage two. The Magdalene effect calls this the 50/50 trap.
Okay,
this stage is all about, you know, striving for that equality, that balance, and fairness in a relationship. Think
shared resp responsibilities, deeper conversations, trying to create that emotional connection. Sounds pretty healthy and involved, right?
It does. What's the trap part?
Well, the trap is that in trying to erase those differences and be perfectly equal, couples actually lose that vital spark of polarity. It's like trying to create friction by rubbing two identical surfaces together. It just doesn't work.
Yeah, I see what you mean. So, it goes from one extreme to the other. Too much superficiality than trying to be exactly the same.
Exactly. And this can actually lead to a loss of passion, a loss of desire. Partners become best friends, roommates, which is great, but you know, it's not exactly a recipe for a fulfilling romantic relationship.
No, not really. So, where's the sweet spot? Where does this healthy polarity actually come into play?
That's where stage three comes in. The Magdalene effect calls this conscious polarity and transformation.
This is where couples can move beyond that need to be the same and instead embrace and celebrate their differences. They realize that Quality doesn't mean being identical. It means honoring each other's unique strengths and letting those differences create this really dynamic and exciting hole.
So, it's not about erasing who you are. It's about using those differences to build something even stronger. Okay, this makes a lot of sense, but I imagine it's not always easy to get to that third stage. What are some of the challenges that couples face along the way?
Well, one of the biggest challenges the Magdalene effect highlights is when men don't actually step up to what they call that masculine responsibility. They paint this very vivid picture of the man on the couch, you know, completely checked out, passive, while the woman's left to carry, you know, the weight of the relationship. And they ask some pretty tough questions like, is it even worth trying to awaken a partner who's that complacent? And what's the risk of getting hurt in the process?
Ouch. Yeah, I can see how that would create a lot of resentment. But, you know, isn't it natural for women to just step up and take charge if their partner isn't pulling their weight?
It is understandable, right? But the Magdal effect argues that this overcompensating actually backfires. When women take on the masculine role all the time, they may start to resent their partner for not stepping up and it becomes harder for them to relax into their own feminine energy and it just creates this vicious cycle of imbalance.
So, how do you break free from that cycle? Do you just like sit around and wait for the guy to magically transform into Prince Charming?
It's not about waiting for someone else to change. It's about women understanding their own worth, honoring their feminine nature, and setting clear boundaries. Sometimes that might even mean walking away from a relationship if that's not possible.
It's about women reclaiming their power, which can be incredibly attractive and inspiring, even if it doesn't lead to a fairy tale ending with that specific partner.
That's a powerful message. It's not about blaming men. It's about women taking responsibility for their own happiness and well-being.
Yeah.
Now, I know the Magdalene effect doesn't shy away from some pretty uh tough topics. And one that comes to mind is this idea that sexual energy can actually be dangerous.
Yeah, that's right. They talk about this transformative power of sexual energy and how it can be incredibly healing, but also has this potential to trigger past traumas. Yeah. And they highlight how women especially can carry these wounds sometimes even from previous generations. They called this epigenetic trauma. And these wounds can surface in, you know, unexpected ways during those really intimate moments.
Wow, that's heavy. So something that's supposed to be pleasurable and connecting can actually become a source of anxiety and pain.
Unfortunately, Yes, but they do offer a hopeful perspective. These challenges, they can be transformed into opportunities for deeper intimacy and deeper healing.
Okay.
The key is open communication, a willingness to listen without judgment, and a shared commitment to creating that really safe and supportive space for exploration.
So, it's about moving beyond the like performance aspect of sex and really tuning into what's happening on an emotional and energetic level. Absolutely. It's about creating a space where both partners feel safe enough to be vulnerable, to express their needs and desires, and to work through those challenges together. And you know, that's actually a great place to pick up in part two of our deep dive into the Magdalene effect.
Can't wait to unpack that further. See you there. Welcome back to our deep dive into the Magdalene effect. In part one, we were talking about this concept of polarity, those three stages of relationship development, and how even Even subtle betrayals of trust can impact intimacy. But um where we left off was how couples can actually navigate these more challenging aspects of intimacy and create that safe space for vulnerability and exploration.
Yeah, that's a great question. And the Magdalene effect really emphasizes this idea of communication, but not just any communication. It's about learning how to communicate effectively, especially when you know old wounds are surfacing or one partner is feeling triggered. And they suggest that women in particular can really benefit from understanding what they call their closures. These are those moments where, you know, they shut down emotionally or physically.
Okay? So, it's about recognizing those patterns and understanding what triggers them. I can see how that self-awareness could be helpful. But isn't it just as important for the men in the relationship to understand what's going on, too?
Absolutely. But they suggest that the first step is for women to really tune into their own experiences first. And they actually point out that not all closures are created equal. Some might stem from, you know, childhood experiences, some from past relationships. And some may even be linked to those ancestral traumas we talked about earlier.
So, it's like we're carrying the emotional baggage of generations past. That's a pretty intense thought.
It can feel that way, right? But here's the empowering part. By becoming aware of these different types of closures, women can start to differentiate between the ones that are their own responsibility to work through and those that are specifically triggered by, you know, their partner's actions or, you know, inactions.
Okay. So, how do you tell the difference? It seems like it would be hard to sort through all of that in the heat of the moment.
It definitely takes practice. The Magdalene effect suggests paying attention to those nuances, like those subtleties in how you're feeling in your reactions. For example, a closure that's coming from an unhealed childhood wound might feel very different than a closure that's triggered by, say, your partner's lack of presence or a betrayal of trust in the relationship. It's about becoming, you know, an emotional detective, noticing those little differences.
Wow, that's fascinating. So, it's not about blaming your partner for every little thing. It's about understanding where those reactions are actually coming from. Yeah.
But once you've kind of figured that out, what then? How do you communicate that to your partner in a way that doesn't just shut down the conversation?
Yeah. And that's where the magic happens. Instead of, you know, lashing out or shutting down completely, women can start to express their needs and their boundaries from a place of, you know, clarity and understanding. It's about being able to say, you know, hey, this is something I'm working through from my past or this is something I need from you right now. Now,
that makes so much sense. It's about owning your experience, but also giving your partner the information they need to show up for you in a supportive way. But what about the men? I mean, what's their role in all of this?
Well, the Magdalene effect really emphasizes that men have a very crucial role to play in supporting their partners through these closures. And it starts with becoming more attuned to those subtle cues and those signals that their partner is giving off. It's about noticing those moments when she withdraws or shuts down and responding with sensitivity and patience.
So, it's not about trying to fix everything or offer solutions right away. I can see how that would totally backfire, especially if someone's feeling really vulnerable.
Exactly. Sometimes the best thing a man can do is just hold space for his partner's emotions, to listen without judgment, and just offer reassurance and support. The Magdalene effect describes it as being, you know, like a safe harbor, like a steady presence in the midst of a storm.
H, that's beautiful. Sounds like true strength comes from being able to be present with someone else's pain. pain without needing to control it or make it go away.
Absolutely. And that kind of emotional support can be deeply healing for women because it allows them to feel seen, heard, and understood. And it ultimately builds trust and strengthens that foundation of their relationship.
That makes sense. And it all kind of ties back to what we were talking about earlier, right? That transformative power of sexual energy.
Yeah.
It sounds like navigating these closures with like awareness and compassion, it can actually deepen intimacy and connection both inside and outside the bedroom.
Yeah, you're totally right. The Magdalene effect makes it really clear that sexual energy is a very potent force. It's capable of both wounding and healing. And when couples approach these sensitive moments with awareness and love, they can actually transform those challenges into opportunities for, you know, profound growth and transformation. But it's not just about those big moments.
What do you mean?
Well, they also talk about these seemingly small betrayals of trust that can actually, you know, chip away at the found of a relationship and make it harder for women to open up sexually. They use this example of a man repeatedly forgetting the potatoes, you know, when he goes to the store as a way to illustrate this.
Wait, forgetting the potatoes? That's a betrayal of trust. Seems a bit extreme,
right? It's not really about the potatoes themselves. It's about what they represent. You know, it's about consistency, reliability, being present and attuned to your partner's needs. If a woman consistently feels let down or unsupported in those, you know, seemingly small ways, It creates this, you know, underlying sense of doubt and insecurity that can really spill over into the bedroom. It's like a tiny crack in the foundation that can eventually, you know, turn into this major fault line.
Oh, okay. I see what you mean. It's about the message it sends, right? Like if you can't be trusted to remember the potatoes, how can I trust you with my heart?
Exactly. It's about the little things adding up over time and creating a sense of unease or distrust. And the Magdalene effect warns that when women don't feel that secure foundation of trust, they might start to overcompensate yet, you know, take on more of that masculine role and become less receptive to their partner's energy,
which again leads back to that resentment and imbalance we were talking about earlier. It really is all connected. This brings up a question for me, though. What about the guys? I mean, don't they need to feel safe and trusted, too?
Of course, they do. The Magdalene effect reminds us that it's a two-way street. Men also need to feel safe and trusted to fully show up in a relationship. If they're constantly feeling, you know, crit icized or judged or controlled, they're likely to withdraw and shut down, which makes it even harder to create that healthy polarity we were talking about.
Okay, so this all really points to the importance of, you know, self-awareness, doesn't it? Like understanding your own patterns and triggers and insecurities is crucial for building any kind of healthy relationship.
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. The Magdalin effect really encourages all of us to take responsibility for our own emotional baggage, you know, to do that inner work that's necessary to heal those old wounds and cultivate a deeper sense of self-love.
So, it's not just about finding the right partner, it's about becoming the right partner. But what if you're listening to this and thinking, you know, okay, I'm ready to embrace this whole polarity thing, but I'm not sure if my partner is on the same page. What then?
Right? That's a great question. And the Magdalene effect offers some really good guidance for those who might be in that situation. They really emphasize the importance of looking for those genuine signs of engagement and commitment from your partner. It's not enough for them to just, you know, say the right words. Their actions need to align with those words.
So, how can you tell if someone is truly on board? Like, what are some concrete signs to look for?
Well, pay attention to their priorities. Do they prioritize this work as much as, you know, their hobbies or their career or other commitments? Are they willing to carve out the time and the energy for this journey of growth and exploration together? That's a big one.
Yeah, that makes sense. It's about seeing where their attention and energy are flowing. What else?
Another key indicator is their willingness to be challenged, to step outside of their comfort zone and grow. Are they open to feedback even if it's, you know, uncomfortable? Are they willing to examine their own patterns and beliefs? That kind of openness is essential for any deep transformative work, especially in relationships.
So, it's not about finding someone who's perfect. It's about finding someone who's willing to evolve and become the best version of themselves.
Exactly. And that includes being open to learning and understanding. understanding the feminine. The Magdalene effect really stresses the importance of men actively seeking out knowledge about, you know, feminine energy, whether it's through books or workshops or conversations or simply by observing and listening to the women in their lives.
That's such a powerful message. It's not about women needing to explain everything to men. It's about men taking initiative and educating themselves. It shows a level of respect and commitment that really speaks volumes.
It does, and it creates a much more balanced and dynamic relationship where both part partners are actively, you know, engaging and learning and growing together.
This has been such a rich and insightful conversation. It feels like we've only scratched the surface of what the Magdalene effect has to offer. We'll be back with part three to kind of wrap up our exploration. Until then, what resonates most with you from this conversation? What are you taking away from this deep dive? All right, so welcome back to the final part of our deep dive into the Magdalene effect. We've covered a lot of ground. We talked about polarity, those three stages of rel relationships, how even small betrayals can affect things. Um, but before we wrap things up, I want to explore this one idea that really stuck with me. It's this whole thing about recognizing when a partner is actually on board with, you know, this journey of conscious polarity.
Yeah, I think that's a really important point. You know, you can understand all these concepts in your head, but actually living them out in a relationship, that's a whole other thing.
And the Magdalene effect, they're very clear about this. You shouldn't settle for anything less than a hell yes from your part. Yeah, I love that. No settling for lukewarm, but how do you actually know when you found that hell yes partner? Like what are you looking for?
Well, it goes beyond just saying the right words or even agreeing with you, you know, intellectually. You really want to see those words reflected in their actions, their willingness to actually show up and do the work.
Okay. So, what does that look like? Can you give me some examples?
Well, one thing they talk about is priorities. Does your partner prioritize this work as much as they prioritize their hobbies, their career, other commitments. Are they willing to make time for this to put in the energy for this journey together?
Right. Makes sense. So, are they walking the walk, not just talking the talk? What else?
Another big thing is their willingness to be challenged, to step outside of that comfort zone and grow. Are they open to feedback even when it's tough to hear? Are they willing to look at their own, you know, patterns and beliefs? Okay,
because that kind of openness, it's really essential for any kind of deep work, especially in relationships.
So, it's not about finding the perfect partner, but finding someone who's willing to, I don't know, evolve and become the best version of themselves.
Exactly. And a big part of that is being open to learning and understanding the feminine. The Magdalene effect is very clear. Men need to be actively seeking out knowledge about feminine energy through books, workshops, conversations, or just by observing and listening to the women in their lives.
I think that's a really important point. It's not about women having to explain everything. It's about men taking initiative to educate themselves.
Yeah.
And that shows a whole other level of respect and commitment.
Absolutely. And it creates a more balanced dynamic, you know, where both partners are really engaged in that learning and growing together.
Well, this has been such an interesting conversation. Really insightful. I feel like we've only just scratched the surface of the Magdalene effect. What about you? What's sticking with you from all of this?
You know, for me, it's remembering that embracing polarity, it's not about reaching some perfect state. It's an ongoing process of self-discovery and growth and connection. It's about understanding and appreciating those differences between masculine and feminine energies both in ourselves and in our partners and having the courage to show up authentically even when things get messy.
Yeah, beautifully said. It's like embracing the dance, right? The push and pull, the friction and the flow and knowing that even those missteps, they can lead to a deeper connection.
Yeah. And that's a journey that's worth taking because when we embrace that dance, we open ourselves up to a love and intimacy that's deeper and more fulfilling than we ever thought possible.
And that is a beautiful note to end on. Thank you all for joining us on this deep dive into the Magdalene effect. If you want to learn more, be sure to check out their website. It's magdalene effect.org. They have English transcripts there and other resources. And until next time, keep diving deep.
