Podcast E26: Where Do Souls Come From?
In this thought-provoking episode of the Magdalene Effect podcast, Mette and Sune explore the enigmatic world of souls, offering a fascinating glimpse into their origins, development, and influence on our lives here on Earth.
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The Source and Essence of the Soul:
Mette and Sune describe the soul as a unique frequency or essence emanating from a universal source, which they refer to as "God," "Source," or "Life" itself. Each soul possesses a specific gift or "tone" that contributes to the cosmic harmony.
The Purpose of Incarnation:
Incarnating into a physical body is seen as a necessary process for the soul's maturation. Through earthly experiences, the soul has the opportunity to develop and anchor its unique essence. Earth serves as a kind of "maturing ground" for the soul, where it learns and grows.
The Veil of Forgetfulness:
Upon incarnation on Earth, the soul forgets its connection to the universal source. This forgetfulness is necessary to experience the duality that characterizes life on Earth, such as gendered reproduction. The separation and fear that arise from this duality drive us to seek security in groups and define ourselves in opposition to others.
Soul Maturation and Categorization:
Mette and Sune present a model for soul maturation, inspired by the Michael Teachings, which categorizes souls into different levels of maturity:
Baby Soul: Young souls with limited experience.
Young Soul: Souls that are exploring and experimenting.
Mature Soul: Souls that have integrated more experience and have a deeper understanding of themselves and the world.
Old Soul: Highly experienced souls with a strong connection to the universal source.
This categorization is not intended as a judgment of the soul's value, but rather as a description of its level of development.
Earthbound Souls vs. Other Soul Types:
In addition to earthbound souls, who follow Earth's evolutionary cycle, two other soul types are introduced:
Interplanetary Souls (IPs): Souls originating from other universes or planets who come to Earth to contribute specific skills or frequencies to support Earth's development.
Angel Souls: Highly evolved beings with deep compassion who incarnate to bring light and consciousness to Earth, often as a form of sacrifice.
Challenges of Living in Alignment with the Soul:
Living in accordance with the soul's impulses can be challenging. One may feel alienated, experience conflicts in relationships, and be forced to take responsibility for one's choices.
Integrating Soul Energy:
Living in alignment with the soul requires an active process of integrating higher consciousness into the body and everyday life. This involves:
Listening to the soul's inner guidance.
Following intuitive impulses.
Taking responsibility for actions and choices.
Navigating relational challenges.
The Soul's Influence on Earth and Cosmos:
The soul is seen as a link between Earth and the cosmos. The way we live our lives affects not only ourselves, but also Earth's and the universe's energy grid. Living in accordance with the soul's impulses can contribute to a positive transformation of both ourselves and the world.
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Welcome to our deep dive, you know, into this whole fascinating world of the soul.
Woo, I like that.
We're your AI hosts and um we're kind of here to like break down these complex topics and, you know, spark some thoughts and get people thinking.
I like it.
You might be wondering how we got here, like why are we exploring the soul?
Yeah. How did we end up here?
So, uh Mette Miriam Sloth and Sune Sloth, the minds behind that Danish podcast, the Magdalene Effect, they reached out to us.
Really?
They wanted to share their insight. with a wider audience. So, more of an English-seeking audience.
Oh, wow. That's great.
Yeah. And specifically, we're looking at episode 26 called Where Do Souls Come From.
That sounds really fascinating.
It really does. So, tell me, what is their take on like what a soul actually is?
Well, they describe the soul as a unique frequency emanating from a universal source.
Whether you call it God or, you know, source or just life,
they suggest that each soul kind of contributes its own distinct tone to like this universe. harmony.
It's a beautiful image. It makes you think about how we're all interconnected. Like we're all playing a part in this grand symphony of existence.
I love that.
It really raises the question of why these unique souls choose to incarnate in the first place.
Yeah. Why are we here?
That's the big question, right? And Mate and Soon, they believe that it's like a crucial step in the soul's evolution.
Okay.
Not a punishment or a prison.
Okay. So, it's not about escaping this earthly realm. No,
it's more about fully immersing ourselves to learn and grow.
Exactly. That's exactly it. And this is where the concept of the veil of forgetfulness comes in.
Okay.
So like upon arrival on Earth, the soul under goes kind of this cosmic amnesia, forgetting its connection to the source and its past lives.
I see.
This allows us to fully engage with the human experience.
So we hit the reset button each lifetime. We're diving head first into the unknown.
Yeah.
But wait, if we forget our past lives,
how did those experiences still will influence us?
That's a really good question and that's where it gets really interesting. Mate and Sunn, they present this model of soul maturation which categorize souls into these different levels of development. Baby, young, mature, and old. Got
this isn't a value judgment. It's just a way of understanding where a soul is on its like evolutionary journey.
So, as we progress through these levels, are we carrying that wisdom and those skills from past lives into each new incarnation? Yeah, that's the idea. It's like each lifetime builds upon the last, adding these layers of complexity and depth to our soul's tapestry.
I like that.
And this reminds me of how soon describes, you know, having this natural aptitude for certain things, perhaps due to talents honed in previous lifetimes. It's like those skills become embedded in the soul's blueprint.
That's fascinating. It makes you wonder what skills or talents we might be carrying forward from our past lives,
doesn't it?
Yeah. But hold on. Are you saying that there are like other types of souls out there. It's not just earthbound souls.
Yeah, you got it. They introduced these two additional soul types. Interplanetary souls or IPS and angel souls.
Interplanetary souls. Are we talking about beings from other planets?
You got it. Think of it like this. IPS originate from different planets or even universes.
Okay.
And they choose to incarnate on Earth to contribute their specific skills and perspectives.
Wow. So, we have cosmic visitors lending a hand.
Exactly. They're drawn to our planet's energy and they really feel a calling to help with its evolution.
Okay. But wouldn't those IPs really struggle to adapt to a world so different from their own?
Yeah, that's a great question.
It's a big culture shock, right?
That's something we're going to delve into a little bit later on. Okay. But first, let's talk about those angel souls.
Okay. So, are we talking wings and halos?
Not necessarily, but you're on the right track.
Okay.
Angel souls are highly evolved beings
who embody compassion and choose to incarnate on Earth to support its development with their light and consciousness.
So, they're like bringing that higher vibration.
Exactly. It's often a selfless act, a form of sacrifice to help raise the planet's vibration.
That's pretty incredible to leave that realm of higher consciousness and willingly enter the density of Earth.
It is. It really is.
That speaks to a lot of commitment.
It really does. And it makes me think about Soon's theory about this influx of souls, you know, maybe both interplanetary and angel souls into early primates,
right?
He believes this influx might have contributed to this rapid development of consciousness, but also, you know, the challenges that came with it.
So, what challenges?
Well, imagine a species suddenly grappling with concepts like self-awareness, morality, and, you know, the complexities of social interaction.
Yeah, that's a lot to handle,
right? As consciousness expanded, so did the potential for things like manipulation and conflict and power struggles.
So, basically, humanity went through this massive growth spurt and We're still figuring out how to handle all this newfound awareness.
Yeah, that's a great way to put it. And that's where the importance of understanding and integrating our soul energy comes into play. It's about aligning with our true essence and navigating these challenges from a place of wisdom and compassion.
I like that. So, how do we actually integrate that higher consciousness into our lives? Is it like a one-time download or is this like an ongoing process?
It's definitely more of an ongoing process. It involves listening to your inner guidance,
okay?
Following your intuition, taking responsibility for your actions, and navigating those relationship challenges that inevitably arise when you start living authentically.
So, it's not about reaching some final destination. Yeah.
It's about continually refining and aligning ourselves with our soul's purpose.
Yeah, I like that. And remember, this journey isn't always easy.
Yeah, I can imagine.
Mech talks about how she used to struggle with anxiety until she started consciously connecting with her soul. That connection allowed her to release the fear. and step into a more empowered way of being.
That's a powerful reminder that true transformation often requires us to face our fears.
Yes.
And move through them.
Yes.
Welcome back.
All right. So, we left off talking about, you know, the challenges of integrating soul energy.
Yeah.
And how it can really sometimes feel like your whole world is being turned upside down.
It can be pretty intense.
Okay. So, I'm ready to get into the practical side of things.
Okay. Let's do it.
So, Mete and Sunn, they mentioned this idea of personal respons. ility in navigating this journey.
Yeah.
So what did they mean by that?
Well, they emphasize that true soul integration really requires taking responsibility for your own growth.
Okay.
And avoiding that trap of blaming others or, you know, projecting your own issues onto them. Yeah.
It's about owning your choices and your reactions
even when it's uncomfortable.
Especially when it's uncomfortable. Yeah.
That's when the real growth happens.
Okay, that makes a lot of sense because it's easy to get caught up,
you know, in pointing fingers. are making excuses.
Yeah.
But ultimately, we have the power to choose how we respond to those challenges.
Exactly. You're in the driver's seat.
Okay.
And this ties into another important point they make.
Yeah.
This need for discernment. They caution against blindly following groups or gurus who claim to have all the answers or offer this quick fix to enlightenment.
You know, I've definitely encountered those follow me to bliss types online.
Oh yeah, they're everywhere.
It's so tempting to seek those easy answers.
It is.
But it's Sounds like that can actually hinder our soul growth.
It can. It can become a crutch. It can become a distraction from doing the real inner work.
Right. So, it's about trusting our own inner wisdom.
Yes.
And not handing over our power to someone else.
Exactly.
No matter how appealing those promises seem.
It's about reclaiming your power.
Okay.
And that path often involves getting comfortable with discomfort.
Oh, I don't like the sound of that.
I know, right? But it's true. As we integrate soul energy, we become more aware ware of those subtle energies around us, which can be overwhelming at times.
So, what does that actually look like in everyday life?
Well, imagine suddenly becoming aware of all the unspoken emotions and energies in a room.
Okay?
You might start feeling other people's emotions more intensely or picking up on their thoughts and intentions.
Like you become a psychic sponge.
Kind of. It can feel like that.
It's like suddenly having access to all these hidden channels on your radio.
Okay.
And some of them are broadcasting some pretty intense static.
Oh, yeah. And it makes navigating relationships even more complex.
I can imagine.
Metate and soon they talk about how this heightened sensitivity can lead to misunderstandings and conflicts, right?
Especially with loved ones who haven't embarked on a similar journey.
So it's kind of like our friends and family might not understand what we're going through.
Yeah. They might think you've gone a little woo woo,
right? Or that we've changed or that we've become overly sensitive. Yeah.
So how do you suggest we handle those situations?
Well, Mate and soon they emphas size patience and understanding.
Remember, everyone is on their own path.
Yeah.
And we can't force anyone to change or awaken before they're ready.
You can lead a horse to water.
Exactly.
But you can't make it drink.
You got it. Sometimes the most loving thing we can do is simply hold space for someone's journey.
Yeah.
Without trying to control it or force them to see things our way.
So, that's a great point.
Yeah.
But it's definitely easier said than done.
It is.
Especially when you see someone you care about making choice. voices that seem, you know, self-destructive.
Yeah.
So, how do you balance that compassion with the need to protect your own energy?
That's where setting those healthy boundaries comes in.
Okay. Tell me more about that.
It's about creating a safe and sacred space for yourself.
Okay.
Where you can grow and evolve without being drained or pulled off track.
I like that.
It doesn't mean cutting yourself off from others, okay?
But it does mean being mindful of who you allow into your energetic space.
So, it's like choosing to engage with people and situation that nourish and support our growth.
Yeah.
Rather than deplete us.
Exactly.
It's really crucial for anyone on, you know, a spiritual path.
It is. It's essential. And sometimes that means having those difficult conversations.
I know. Saying no to things you don't want to do.
Okay.
Or even stepping back from certain relationships if they're no longer serving you.
So that sounds really challenging.
It can be,
especially if you're someone who's naturally empathetic.
Yeah.
And you know, wants to help others.
Yeah.
So, how do you navigate those conversations with without creating more conflict.
It's a delicate balance.
It takes practice. Metate and soon they offer some helpful advice. Okay.
Like practicing clear communication.
Okay.
Setting firm but loving boundaries.
Got it.
And understanding the energetic dynamics at play in our relationships.
They mentioned something about cutting energetic cords.
They did.
I've heard of that. But what is that?
In energy work, it's believed that we form energetic connections or chords with the people that we interact with,
okay?
Especially those we're close to,
okay?
These cords can be channels for love and support, but they can also become entangled and carry negative or draining energy.
So, it's kind of like this invisible web connecting us all.
Yeah, that's a great way to put it.
And sometimes those connections need a little disentangling.
They do
to ensure that healthy energy flow.
Exactly.
So, how do you go about cutting those cords?
Well, there are various techniques.
Okay.
But the most important thing is the intention. Okay. So, it's a visualization exercise.
Yeah.
That's cool.
Yeah.
But I'm curious about something else. They mention this idea that planet Earth itself,
Gaia, is also going through a transformation.
Yeah.
So, what do they mean by that?
They believe that as humanity evolves, so does the planet.
Okay.
It's like we're all in this cosmic dance together, right?
Influencing and shaping each other's evolution.
So, we're not just passengers on spaceship Earth.
No,
we're active participants in its evolution.
Exactly. We're co creating this reality.
Wow, that's a lot of responsibility.
It is, but it's also incredibly empowering.
Okay, I like that.
Think about it. Every time you choose love over fear, every time you act from a place of compassion and integrity,
Yeah.
you're contributing to the positive transformation of the planet,
you're raising the vibration.
You are. You're literally raising the vibration. It's like we're all these little tuning forks,
right?
And the more of us who are vibrating at a higher frequency, the more harmonious the overall sound be comes
okay
and this ties into Metate and Ensoon's observation that it's becoming increasingly difficult for negativity and manipulation to thrive
okay
as more light and consciousness enter the planet's energy grid
so they believe that Gaia is shifting to a higher vibration
they do
and we're all part of that shift
we are we're all in this together
that's incredibly hopeful
it is
it's like we're witnessing a global awakening this collective shift towards greater awareness and compassion
exactly
but I Imagine that transformation isn't always easy or comfortable.
It's not. It's like a caterpillar going through this messy and disorienting process to become a butterfly. We too can experience those growing pains as we evolve.
Speaking of growing pains.
Mhm.
Mate and soon they mention something called transmutation symptoms.
Yeah.
What are those?
These are the physical, mental, and emotional symptoms that can accompany spiritual awakening and soul integration.
So it's like your whole being is re-calibrating to a higher frequency.
Yeah, it's like getting a cosmic software upgrade.
Okay.
But it comes with a few bugs and glitches along the way,
right?
These symptoms can manifest in various ways from headaches and fatigue to anxiety and emotional upheaval.
So, it can be pretty intense.
It can be,
but it's often temporary.
It is. It's a sign that you're making progress.
It's like those detox symptoms you get.
Exactly.
When you're cleansing your body.
You got it. It's a sign that things are shifting and changing.
This is a lot to absorb.
It is.
And we've covered covered so much ground.
Yeah.
You know, from the nature of the soul
to the complexities of integrating soul energy
and the challenges and opportunities that come up along the way.
It's a journey
and we still have one more part to go.
We do.
So, what can listeners expect to learn in the final segment of our exploration?
Well, in the next part, we'll dive into the unique challenges faced by interplanetary and angel souls.
Oh,
Metate and Soon offer some fascinating insights into how these souls experience life on Earth and how we can better understand and support their journeys.
Okay.
It's a thought-provoking exploration of the diversity of souls and the incredible tapestry of consciousness that makes up our world.
Sounds good. I can't wait to hear more about these unique soul types.
Yeah.
The gifts that they bring to our planet.
Me, too.
Welcome back to our deep dive into the soul.
That's been a wild ride.
It really has. We've been exploring Metate and Soon Sloth's insights from their podcast, The Magdalene Effect. And uh I'm really eager to hear hear more about those unique soul types they mentioned interplanetary souls and angel souls.
Okay. Yeah, this is where it gets really fascinating.
Okay.
Remember Metate and Soon believe that Earth isn't the only planet, you know, teameming with life and consciousness. So these interplanetary souls or IPS as they call them, they come from different planets or even different universes bringing their own unique perspectives and skills to our world.
So it's like a cosmic exchange program.
It is. It's like a cosmic exchange program.
But wouldn't the Those IPs feel completely out of place here on Earth.
Yeah, it would be a huge adjustment.
Imagine coming from a society where everyone communicates telepathically and lives in harmony with nature and then you suddenly find yourself in a world where people can't even express their feelings and the environment's under constant strain.
Right. It's like going from a peaceful retreat to a chaotic city.
It's huge culture shock.
It is. And IPS often do feel like they don't quite fit in.
Yeah.
They might see the flaws in human behavior more readily and struggle to understand why we create so much unnecessary suffering,
right? It's kind of like they're seeing things from a higher perspective.
They are. They're like advanced souls from a highly evolved civil civilization observing our wars, our pollution, our social injustices.
Yeah.
It's almost heartbreaking.
It really is.
Yeah.
But it also explains why so many IPS are drawn to helping humanity evolve.
Yeah. They have this deep compassion for us,
right? They come with this innate desire to make things better, to share their wisdom and knowledge. It's like they're here to nudge us in a more loving and sustainable direction. You'll often find IPS involved in, you know, social justice movements, environmental activism, or pioneering new technologies and solutions to those global problems.
So, they really have that vision of a better future.
They do. They're driven to help us create it.
That's really inspiring.
It is.
But I can also see how they could get disillusioned or burnt out.
Oh, yeah. It's a tough job,
right? Because it's one thing to have the knowledge and skills to help, but it's another thing entirely to face that resistance and apathy
and even hostility sometimes,
right, when you're trying to implement those solutions.
It can be really disheartening.
So, this is where medicine's emphasis on personal responsibility really comes into play.
Yeah, it's crucial.
IPS often have a strong sense of justice and that desire to make things right.
They want to fix everything,
right? But they need to remember that they can't force change or take on the burden of saving the world all by themselves.
It's not a one person job.
So, it's really about finding that balance between their desire to help and the understanding that they can't control other people's choices.
Exactly. They can't force people to awaken before they're ready.
So, what's their role then?
Well, their role is to be a catalyst for change,
to plant those seeds of awareness and to trust that their presence has this ripple effect even if they don't see immediate results.
Okay.
And this brings us to the other fascinating soul type, the angel souls.
Yes. Tell me more about these highly evolved beings who choose to incarnate on Earth to support its evolution.
It's a mind-blowing concept.
It really is a beautiful concept, but I can imagine it also comes with its own unique set of challenges.
Oh, yeah. It's not easy being an angel soul, right?
Imagine being a soul accustomed to residing in realms of pure love and light.
Okay.
And then choosing to descend into the density and duality of Earth. It's like going from paradise to a war zone.
Yeah. It's a huge sacrifice.
It is. It's an act of profound is selflessness.
And it really highlights the sacrifices that those angel souls make to be here.
They do. They willingly expose themselves to negativity, suffering, even darkness.
All for the sake of helping humanity evolve.
All for the sake of love. It's incredible.
It's truly remarkable.
It is. But it can take a toll on them.
Oh, yeah. I can imagine.
They often feel overwhelmed by the heaviness of the world and struggle to adapt to those lower vibrational frequencies.
So, it's kind of like they're super sensitive.
They are. They're like empaths on steroids absorbing other people's emotions and energies like sponges.
So they really need to be mindful of their energy and who they surround themselves with.
They do otherwise they could easily become drained or even lose themselves in the process.
Right. It's like they need to protect their own light.
They do. And Med observes that angel souls often struggle with setting boundaries.
Yeah.
It goes against their inherent nature to help and heal. They're drawn to serve, to uplift, to men, but they need to learn to protect their own light. energy in the process.
Otherwise, they become easy targets.
They do. They're like walking around with a giant free energy sign on their foreheads.
Right.
And this is why it's so important for angel souls to practice discernment.
Yeah.
To learn to distinguish between those genuine calls for help and those who would simply drain their energy without offering anything in return.
So, they need to be able to say no.
They do. It's crucial. They need to understand that self-care isn't selfish,
right?
It's essential for fulfilling their mission.
Yeah. You I pour from an empty cup.
Exactly. You got it. And Medi mentioned that some angel souls actually choose to incarnate into challenging families, offering this profound support that might not even be recognized until after their physical death.
Wow.
Talk about dedication.
That's amazing.
It is. It speaks to the depth of their compassion and their willingness to serve even in those most difficult circumstances.
Yeah. It's really humbling.
It is. And it highlights the importance of honoring and appreciating those sacrifices that they make.
This has been such an incredible conversation.
It has
so insightful.
I agree.
You know, it makes you realize that the world is full of all these diverse souls, each with their own unique journey and purpose.
It really does. It's like a beautiful tapestry.
Yeah. So, what are some key takeaways that you hope listeners will glean from Metansoon's insights?
Well, first and foremost, I hope they'll recognize that they're not alone. Yeah.
Whether they resonate with the idea of being an earthbound soul, an IP or an angel soul. There are others out there who share their experiences and understand those challenges.
So, they're part of a community.
They are.
Even if they don't realize it.
Exactly. And I hope listeners will feel empowered to embrace their own soul journey.
Okay.
To trust their intuition and to cultivate that deep connection with their own inner wisdom.
It's about honoring your unique path.
It is, even if it looks different from everyone else's. And remember, this deep dive is just one perspective on this vast and multifaceted top. IC, right?
I encourage you to explore these ideas further to follow your own intuition and seek out those resources that resonate with you.
So, it's not about finding all the answers. It's about
embarking on your own exploration.
It is. It's about the journey.
And what if the most important part of that journey isn't about achieving some distant goal?
Yeah.
But about how you choose to show up and express your unique essence in the world right now.
That's beautiful. I love that.
Well, thank you, for joining us on this deep dive into the mysteries of the soul.
It's been a pleasure.
It really has. We hope it sparked your curiosity and inspired you to continue exploring this fascinating and ever unfolding journey.
Absolutely. Keep seek, keep exploring and keep shining your light.
Beautiful.
Until next time.